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« on: July 04, 2006, 08:15:45 PM »

I may get flamed, I may not. At this point, nothing else could bring me more down than I already am, and I find I don't really care anymore. This is a public apology.

I don't know all the parties involved, but I'm sorry I made anyone feel uncomfortable when you met me and/or spent time with me at AnimeNext. It was never my intentions to make you feel that way.

I am very shy and introverted when I am with people I barely know, and sometimes with people I haven't seen in a long time. It is the shell most other people see till I get to know them. That's what happened at the con. I may have seemed like I was not having a good time, but in reality it wasn't true. I was just within those walls; that shell. I just needed a little time to come out, and I am sorry I didn't have a chance for that to happen.

It's a little easier online, but not by much. You still have to get past those barriers.

At any rate, I am terribly sorry, and I hope you all don't think I'm a horrible person.  Sad/Down

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2006, 09:56:22 PM »

Why on earth would anyone publicly roast you for something as silly as that?  Honestly!

Anyone who is involved has most likely spoken to you privately and they wouldn't be the type to speak publicly about it anyway.

You're drawing unnecessary attention to yourself that's all.
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2006, 10:08:40 PM »

I-I don't know why I thought I would be. I just thought I leave open an opportunity where if they wanted to contact me privately they could. I'm sorry.  Sad/Down
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2006, 10:31:51 PM »

I was not involved, but I will say, having read this:
You have done your best to apologize in the way you thought best.
If the others can't understand this or accept it, you have done your part and that's all you can do.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 12:40:31 AM »

Thanks, Leo.  Happy/Smile
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2006, 07:53:15 AM »

Don't get me wrong, it's a public forum and you can apologize all you want.  It's not my place to say don't I just think you're drawing attention to yourself that doesn't need to be drawn.  I'm not saying this to be mean.

It's just... if things have been taken care of under wraps then why drag it out into the public where no one even knew anything was wrong?
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2006, 10:00:01 AM »

Hiya,

I don't know what to say to this, because really you didn't do anything wrong towards me.  True you were quiet, and I realized that was your shell when you meet people.  My shell is a bit different, it's my energy, as people get to know me they see I calm down.  No one in the last few years has even seen the old energy I use to give off before I was hurt.  If anyone knows that energy best, it's Donatello (aka HT).   Poor Donny would be picked up and thrown around when we'd meet up.   Angel

There was a few things that was done, that didn't feel nessary... like the feeling of being rushed a lot.  I'm going to be honest here for you, and any who read this.  When I was walking in NYC, even at the bus station I was ahead of everyone because I was talking with Arista about a few things and it was our only chance to really talk through the weekend.  If you noticed durning the weekend, I like to talk to people one on one a bit to get to know each of my friends.  I would make sure everyone was in sight, and than would keep walking without worry about loosing them.  I knew all the faces in our group, and I know they knew me... if anyone had a problem with us going faster they could of asked me to slow down.   Though I know you were feeling rushed and warning people they were going to get lost.  You stressed out a little there, I can understand it could be just how busy the city seems, since NYC is very busy compared to any where else I've ever been.   Though if anything I'd sudjest, give people a little space and ask them if they're worried about it or even talk to the person who's leading everyone through, to see if they realize how far ahead they are.  Just to make sure everything is on a calmer level than what you may have been feeling.

Truthfully it was things like that, which I would notice.  You do worry and stress out a lot.  What I would recommend is calming down a little and look around to see if others are feeling the same stress, breath just a little bit.  These meet ups are for fun and getting to know each other, though when there's stress in the group it's harder to relax as much as one would like.  I know I was stressing out more than enough for all of us esp on Friday night when I found out my credit card wouldn't pay for the $900 car repair.  So I won't say I didn't add stress to the group too.  We all did in our own ways.  Though I tried not to let the stress control me, as soon as I was able to dry up the tears from the phone calls we grabbed up the fruit snacks and went down to tell everyone that we could in the convention about the TMNT party.  Which was a lot of fun, it was great just going around giving out candy to total strangers and getting to talk TMNT with everyone.  Happy/Smile  

It was little things like that I would notice here and there, but it was nothing that made me not like you, for any reason.  Heh I know I would joke with you about cleaning the room even durning the party (and I'm serious ya wouldn't like my room it's always a mess just about Wink )   I've kept an eye out for you on AIM recently and haven't been seeing you as much as I use to, we haven't got to talk since I got home.    

I know you're shy, I could see that as well.  I was very happy and surprised that you were able to get up there and talk to Mike S. as well as you did.  That was great and I hope it's a good memory for years to come for you.  All of us are shy to different points and different areas, and all of us have our sheilds when we meet people.  Mine being hyper energys and mainly talking Ninja Turtles, another one of my friend is pure energy bouncing around a LOT she was shocked when I called it on her, another one of my friends is shy and sitting in the background drawing a lot, and I know people who just have a bit of a temper to break through before you know them.   Everyone is different, and usually it's not the sheild that people pick up on, like we'd think.  

I enjoyed getting the chance to meet you and spend the weekend with you.  I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed it, for when you would stress the way you did, I was worried that you were upset.  It wasn't the shyness that had me worried, but when you'd show that you were stressed or restless.  I felt like we weren't doing things that you'd like to do, like when Mike missed his panels and autograph sessions on Saturday, you seemed more upset than shy.  I felt bad, I wished there was away that we could of took back that and get him to show up for the things he was marked down for that day, though I knew there was nothing I could do about it.  And it worried me, that it was giving you a bad weekend and I wanted all of my friends to have good memories of this event.

I do not think you're a horrible person, and I'm sorry you came out feeling this way with the event.  Everyone had their issues over the weekend, their stresses... and we know that no one is perfect going into these events.  My flaws were all out in the open, I'm a over emotional person, and a worry wart at times... like about my car... so I wasn't showing my best time the full weekend either.  No one was, heh remember one of the funniest moments of the weekend was Onna showing her pizza'ed off side at the guy in line, true that's not one of her best sides but the timing and what was said was so funny that it fit perfect.  Though she didn't except that to come out, and she was a bit worried about what the annoying guy would do after she yelled at him.

I hope you're ok, once again I'm sorry that you feel that you have to apologize... esp publicly... the stress and stuff is something I wouldn't normally talk about in public, though I think I would feel really bad if this topic wasn't replied to here... people could get the idea that those of us who went don't care enough to reply.  Though I still see you as a friend, and I want you and everyone else to know that.   I also wanted to be able to express the few things I saw, so that you have an idea of a different view of what was going on over the weekend.

*Hugs*  Take care and chin up.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2006, 01:03:54 PM »

Since we're apparently being open and public about our feelings on this situation here, I would like to express my personal opinion.

First I would like to say, I don't think it was necessary to bring this situation up on a public form, when it really only involved a very very few limited amount of people here. To me, it simply seems like a cry for attention. If you wanted to say sorry to the people you think you may have offended, you could have done it personally to each one. 'Course that's just my opinion.

Second, I have to just get this off my chest, because I still burn with anger from it. Forgive me if I don't get the situation exact. When I asked what you thought of Venture Bros after we had watched it together (you, Onna and I) you said it wasn't really your thing...which is all fair and good, I can't make people like any shows I like. Then you stated you don't watch shows just because Mike is in them. I didn't say anything simply because I don't like starting fights if I can avoid them, and I was just getting to know you so I let it slide. But remembering that statement *still*, I must confess this. That was one of the rudest things anyone could have ever said to me. I DO NOT WATCH VENTURE BROS (or any other show for that matter!)SIMPLY BECAUSE MIKE SINTERNIKLAAS IS IN IT. In fact, I didn't even KNOW who Mike was UNTIL I started watching Venture Bros. If it weren't for Venture Bros actually, I wouldn't have gotten to meet Mike....or Ivey, Kaz, Blue, Onna and so on. It's because I was interested in the voice actor who did my favorite character in the show (Dean Venture), that I went searching for info about him and his past works which led me to Ivey and the others because they were big fans of his as well!
I'm a fan of TMNT, but I don't watch it all the time because Mike is in it! Same goes for Kappa Mikey (which I admit I didn't even know about until Mike mentioned it, but I don't watch it FOR HIM....my favorite character in that is Mitsuki!), and I don't even really like Yu-gi-oh! and have never seen Shaman King for that matter!
***It's not because of Mike that I watch a show. It's because of a show that I watch Mike....or even know who he is for that matter!!***
I'm sorry but that really ticked me off. I am still, almost a month later, offended by that.

Third, I got a really big feeling that you didn't like me simply because I spent alot of time with Onna. That....wasn't my fault and I really disliked the vibe of "stop spending so much time with MY best friend" that I got from you. Maybe it was just me, which is possible. But I didn't exactly feel welcomed by you.

And....that's all I have to say right now.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2006, 02:39:54 PM »

Oye yeah... I wasn't even gonna touch that but Crittle has a point.  

Mystic I don't know if you realized what you said or the way you said it but it was offensive.  Then later in your con review you said that you might check out Venture Brothers one of these days which totally went against what you had said earlier.  I understand people change their minds but that's just a total 180 there.

And for the record I too only heard about Kappa Mikey b/c Mike did a voice in it (and b/c Crittle wouldn't shut up about it.  XD) but as everyone who knows me knows by now Yes Man is my favorite character.  Mikey's actually kind of... dumb.  *L*
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2006, 06:37:43 PM »

Sad/Down I am not crying out for any attention...  

Crittle, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say it like that. I swear I didn't. I never meant to imply you were watching anything just because of Mike. I shouldn't have said it like that. I am sorry. I understand that you like the show simply for what it is. I was honest when I said I might check more into Venture Bros. someday. I thought over it more, and it seems interesting.

And if I gave you that vibe of spending too much time with Onna, I didn't mean it. I never implied that at all. If anything, I kind of hung back so you two could spend time together.

I never meant to hurt anyone. I swear I didn't. I don't want to make enemies out of either of you, or anyone else for that matter.

I only wanted to do the right thing for this apology, but as lately, I have ended up doing it the wrong way...
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2006, 08:18:43 PM »

I don't know what happened at AN because I honestly didn't have a chance to really hang out with you guys except like at the lines and such but I don't think there was anything wrong with you, LM.

Going to what Crittle said. I honestly do watch stuff that Sam's in. That's only because he tells me about it and asks for my opinion. So I do have to be guilty on that but for a good reason.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2006, 10:40:53 PM »

I'm sorry, I guess it shouldn't have offended me as much as it did. It just rubbed me the wrong way simply because of the fact that it sounded to me like the only reason you thought I watched VB was just because Mike was in it, which is simply not true, because if it weren't for that show I wouldn't even know Mike....or anyone here for that matter. And as much as I love Dean Venture, it's a great show even without him. In fact, I was prepared to start off season two with no Dean Venture because his character was killed off in the last episode of season one, yet I was still excited for the show anyway! Anyone of you who reads y live journal entries knows that my greatest fear is being seen as a freaky stalker fangirl to Mike, and as much as all of you have reassured me I'm not that way, I'm still afraid of being seen that way by people who don't really know me....and Mike himself. Like I said...GREATEST FEAR. So I was just afraid you were implying something like that on me, when you *basically* said to me by saying that, "you only watch shows just cuz Mike are in them, be they good, bad, pointless or whatever"

So, partially what you said, partially me being too uh...defensive I guess. So, I suppose since you said you didn't mean it, I'm sorry for being the way I was about it as well, and under this matter all seems well now.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2006, 11:18:09 PM »

Happy/Smile It's perfectly understandable, and I forgive you. Misunderstandings happen, but it's good we can work them out.  *extends olive branch*

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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2006, 12:21:59 PM »

Truthfully LM, I was the same way, sort of, when I went to AnimeNext back in 2004.  I hid away some of the time, though not out of shyness, but more because I was dealing with a lot of emotional issues.  And I didn't want to be around my good friends and subject them to that when I was in that state of mind.  Though I also can be quite shy and reclusive at times, but I'm getting better.  I've been better at later cons since then and I'm not as afraid to meet new people.  If I ever did meet you tho LM, I have a feeling we'd get along great cuz we seem to share some common interests and traits here, Wink  Us Leo fans gotta stick together, no?  Anyway I'm sorry to hear that happened.  But believe me I've been there and I understand completely.  I would not have taken offense had I been there with ya, knowing what was going on with you.  I don't think you're a horrible person.  
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