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Question: Do you believe the TMNT are real?
Yes, they totally exist in this world. - 3 (9.7%)
Yes, in the collective consciousness of the fans. - 15 (48.4%)
Yes, in another dimension, and Eastman and/or Laird "saw" them. - 4 (12.9%)
I have no idea. - 1 (3.2%)
No, they are only fictional characters. - 8 (25.8%)
Total Voters: 30

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« Reply #135 on: July 28, 2007, 11:31:49 AM »

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Another question:

Did the dreams and ah, "visions", (for lack of a better term) come before the interest in TMNT or did the interest in TMNT come first, before the dreams and "visions"?

If you don't understand the question, I'll reword it.  Happy/Smile


Dreams came during the fandom...mostly cos there's notta day I don't think about Raph or any of them. So, inspirations coming from those dreams many times. Okay now what evil situation i can stick one of them in?  Twisted Evil

And if the Turtles were real people, do you think they are some sort of possession to be claimed or fought over like merchandise on a sale rack at Macy's?


Yes. People want to OWN things that are no human; the guys aren't totally human so they would probably be seen as property(as they are anyways) and to be exploited as much as possible. I could see it though- the rights activists and animal rights nuts would be fighting for their complete freedom to be citizens Razz that might make an interesting fic if written right.
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« Reply #136 on: July 28, 2007, 12:23:52 PM »

The thing is, there's very little in their behavior that marks them as animals. They are every bit as intelligent, if not more, than their average human counterparts. That is, more than average people who hardly seem to tap much into their brains as it is...

The term Homo sapiens is summed up with the phrase "I think, therefore I am."
I would consider them "human", in that respect. Human is as human does, in my book. Wink

If they did not have the intellectual capacity to read, write, solve complex problems, adapt to any environment, and wonder where they came from, then the debate could go on indefinitely.  

Yeah, agreed that it would make a great fic. I can see them being given a series of intelligence tests, and the results would effectively end the argument.

Then xenophobia and racial prejudice would take over.  Ugh... but that's life, eh?  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #137 on: July 29, 2007, 12:33:42 PM »

If the guys be given intelligence tests I know Donnie will get high marks.He'll be Magna Cun Laude if he goes to college.I'm sure Splinter also gave them homeworks aside from Ninjitsu lessons.
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« Reply #138 on: July 29, 2007, 11:50:36 PM »

I'm not completely sold on Don being that much more intelligent, in a general sense, than the others. They all have exhibited significant intelligence in their own ways. BEcause they were brought up to make the most of their abilities, and talents.
 
And Mikey is no dummy, even though he has been depicted as such. It's his sense of humor. People misunderstand him and think he's as daft as a brush.  Rolling Eyes  I think not.

Don, as you may have seen in the first movie, is not as good at spontaneous witticisms like his brothers. Though he shows some improvement after practicing, it's not his forte.  
As far as mechanical problem solving goes, especially under pressure, his scores would be way off the scale.

And yes, as far as the academics go, Nanette, you have a point, he'd likely be in that category. Then he'd probably have a couple of PhDs by the time he's 35... though I don't know how he can defend his theses to any committee, unless he pulled the human proxy trick like in the old toon, with Irma, and being... Donna... Tello...  Shocked I don't think that would be feasible.

Well, look at it this way, if he was in this world, he'd have to be content with an informal self-education, because any of his accomplishments would draw too much attention to him.
Just my take on it. Happy/Smile
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« Reply #139 on: July 30, 2007, 09:16:55 AM »

Exist or not exist...? Hrmn, HARD to say.... *plays with Chin* Y'see...I agree with one of the very first posters there! There's a part of me that LOVES to cling to my childhood idea of them ACTUALLY being real. It DOES also make me feel safer, and I too like her grin every time I start walking over sewers, especially deep ones!

I remember doing that recently in Pennsylvania in which I just shouted, "COWABUNGA GUYS...~!" and me and my friend laughed because others stared, but another group laughed and gave some thumbs up. *giggles* Hrmn..

I like the other person also seen something turtlish happen to me froma sewer ones. I ACTUALLY SEEN, A  hand reach out and try to pick up a broken Bo-Staff that was in the sewer. I just went, "HUH! D-Donny?!" and the hand paused and retracted quickly. I called over my friends and  told them all about it! they also viewed the staff too.... and then I was YELLED at by the teacher.

I explained to the teacher and pointed to the staff. She just stared and looked oddly at the staff,a nd said "How in the....? We'll have to get that out...!" And called over another teacher who walso was curious as to how the heck that got in there, and they went to get the principal and explained to them what was in there and they needed to get it removed.

So, I know I WASN'T DREAMING! *Flails* Man though! XD That WHOLE time I was sitting in Time-Out I couldn't stop contemplating over that blasted Staff. Even my friends who were in troule too.

Eh, but y'know.. I don't like to seem Psychomatic, so, I've pushed aside the full blown thought of them being real. =/ So... Just in my mind they are. *nod*
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« Reply #140 on: July 30, 2007, 10:54:21 AM »

Where was your class, on a field trip and crossing a city street? Rather confused by your post...  Confused
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« Reply #141 on: July 30, 2007, 11:47:30 AM »

No, we were on the school playgroudn o.o; We always had this Sewer Drain thing that was RIGHT next to this one Jungle Gym like structure, back then we called it "The Spider Web" or,  "The Cage".
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« Reply #142 on: July 30, 2007, 01:17:40 PM »

Yes,I did mean that academic wise Donatello will do fine.but I'm sure the others will as well.
A lot of people would guess that Mikey is always goofing around.and that's his strategylet them think you're goofy then hit them where they get them.
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« Reply #143 on: July 30, 2007, 08:28:19 PM »

Do you all - those who said they "saw" one of the turtles - live in the same city or so? If not, then there should exist more turtles out there...just a question..  Neutral
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« Reply #144 on: July 30, 2007, 09:56:05 PM »

No we don't live in the same city, but Michigan and Ontario are close... We have a crossing way from Michigan over to Canada, and that leads right ot Ontario. So who knows...? Maybe they was just passing through from New York to here...?XD Maybe some weird mission...?

ROTFL.. Who knows. 9.9 It was so long ego.
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« Reply #145 on: July 31, 2007, 02:12:10 AM »

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No we don't live in the same city, but Michigan and Ontario are close... We have a crossing way from Michigan over to Canada, and that leads right ot Ontario. So who knows...? Maybe they was just passing through from New York to here...?XD Maybe some weird mission...?


Okay, that makes more sense. In a way.  Razz

Turtles in Canada. Well, why not... Ontario's nice, from what I remember of it, it was a long time ago.  Very Happy/Big Grin
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