Do you think Leo didn't give off all his strength to Raph?

[Manson]

In the fight between Leo and Raph, I can see that Leo didn't give off all his strength while he was holding his swords against Raph's sais. Leo didn't have the heart to hurt his bro.

At the beginning, Leo didnt want to fight with Raph, but the insistence of Raph made him act.
They fighted and Leo's approach made Raph had no way to back off.

When they were holding against together, Leo saw the fire in Raph's eyes and he was a little shocked.
But that was Raph, his bro, how would he have the heart to hurt him?!
He didnt give off all his strength.

That is what i can see.

Sorry if my English make it hard for you to understand.

[Leonardo]

I think I understand what you are saying.
It was the Intent in the fight.
Raph had lost control to his anger, was so enraged he could have killed or seriously injured his brother.
But Leo wasn't really out to injure Raph.

It was really well presented as a fight, that even in a fight scene, there was a story there being told about the two characters. I am looking forward to the dvd when I can enjoy it again.

[Manson]

I think I understand what you are saying.
It was the Intent in the fight.
Raph had lost control to his anger, was so enraged he could have killed or seriously injured his brother.
But Leo wasn't really out to injure Raph.

It was really well presented as a fight, that even in a fight scene, there was a story there being told about the two characters. I am looking forward to the dvd when I can enjoy it again.

thanks for explain what i want to tell in a more understandable way.

[Mindy]

Yep, I also thought Leonardo wasn't giving his all in this fight because it was his brother. That's not to say that Leonardo could have easily WON - both Turtles are very skilled.

Your English is getting better, Manson.  

[Manson]

Your English is getting better, Manson.  

Hehe...thanks

[Eclipse]

Totally agree! Leo was holding back, he didn't have that intent like Raph did. He knew better! *HUGS Leo* XD

[Jelly bean]

I don't think that leo gave his whole strength because i don't he wanted to really hurt Raph. Just maybe subdue him and then lecture him some more. Raph I think was just to angry to hold back and that is why he won.

[Michaelangelo]

I agree...

I don't think Leo put his heart into it... if he did, there was many ways Leo could of got out of the end of that night.  Like kicking Raph during that stand off.

Really I think the fight was too forced... I didn't feel the lead up to it was real enough.  Leo's anger at the Night watcher made no sense to me.  And was out of character, so I didn't feel it.

True it was eye candy, but I really wish they didn't force it the way they did.

[Buslady]

true it was eye candy but damn for me it was really good eye candy

I don't think Leo believed his brother would actually break his blades, he should have realised that look was serious, and he damn well would. And he damn well did.

[Sage Ninja]

I agree...

I don't think Leo put his heart into it... if he did, there was many ways Leo could of got out of the end of that night.  Like kicking Raph during that stand off.

Really I think the fight was too forced... I didn't feel the lead up to it was real enough.  Leo's anger at the Night watcher made no sense to me.  And was out of character, so I didn't feel it.

True it was eye candy, but I really wish they didn't force it the way they did.

I didn't really think Leo's anger at the Night Watcher made sence eighther but I don't think the fight was forced when it was finnally revealed that Raph was him. It may not have been shown all the resentment that present and why it was there but it did seem like a life time worth of anger and frustration at each other had finnally reached the breaking point, and it exploded in violence of Raph going after Leo in rage.

People say that leo was out of character in this scene, even though I'm inclined to particially agree with this, I don't think his belief that he is more capable and in some ways "superior" to Raph was so out of character and that was really what Raph has a problem with. Not that leo is favorite with Splinter or that he is the leader or even his social position it's the fact that given all this in Leo's favor he thinks Leo thinks he is better than Raph, which enrages him; and was the one thing that really set Raph off enough during that verbal fight to attack him physically. Raph had a justified reason to react the way he did, leo gave him genuane provockion by throwing something Raph is senctive about in his face.