One brother angry at the others

[Sage Ninja]

Out of all the brothers, which turtle do you think the other turtles would feel the most uncomfertable or divistated over if he was mad at every one? You know how in a grounp of frineds or siblings there are some people who you can fight with and you know you can handle it and you know it would eventually blow over, with your relationship reletivily intact. But you know there are some friends or siblings that you don't want to ever want to get mad at you or stop talking to you because you can't handle them being mad at you, and that a fight would damage your relationship with that person.

So my question is, which turtle would the other turtles dread/ not be able to handle, being angry with them? Which turtle would cause the other turtles to go, holy crap he's angry with us, what the hell are we going to do? Which turtle would the other turtles feel their relationship would be the most threatend by if that turtle where to get so get angry that they would stop talking to the others for what ever reason. Which turtle would be the hardest to earn their forgivness if they got to the point of being really angry at the other turtles.

Personaly I think the one turtle the other turtles would feel the most devastated over and feel that their relationship would become the most damaged, if he would where to get really angry at them, would be Donatello. I think if for what ever reason, if Donatello where ever to become angry at his brothers that it would be a bigger deal and shock to every one. For the simple fact that I think, that if something is big enough to anger Donatello to the point of not wanting to speak to the others, that it would be a big shock and would inspire the most fear of loseing that closeness to him. And that there would be more a sence of urgancy and panick of earning his forgiveness, and assureing that their realtionship with him remains intact.

[Sage Ninja]

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[Leonardo the 2nd]

Good question. Hmm...I also would think Don, but don't ask me why I choose him^^ It's simply my feeling.

[Sage Ninja]

I think the reason Donatello would be the turtle that the others would hate to have angry at them the most is because it would probably take something very big to make Donatello angry. And also because I think that Dontello's is the hardest turtle to read so I think the other turtles would have the hardest time judging how to react to him and make amends with him. Also I've noticed that Donatello isn't as laid back as fans may think. In the new show he has shown times of being grumpy and grouchy and even angry. In fact I noticed that in the new toon when Donatello is in a bad mood or upset, the others turtles don't try to provoke him and even act with a certain amount wariness around him. Like they don't want to push his buttons, and don't want him to be angry at them. in fact out of all of them Donatello seems to be the one that every has the most tolerance for when he is in a bad mood. Which leads me to think that they would feel the most uncomfertable or panicked if they acciendtly crossed the line with him and he wasn't speaking to them. Donatello just comes across to me as some one who wouldn't put up with certain B.S and the turtles know it and wouldn't want to get him to a point where his their relationship with him would be i jeapordy. Because the realtionship with him would be the hardest to to get back to normal other wise.

But I am curious how do you think each turtle would react if one of their brothers was made at the rest. Like if Dontello was angry and not speaking to the other turtles how would it affect personaly affect Mikey, or Raph and Leo. Or the flip it like if Leo was mad at the others, how woukld each other turtles react?

[Michaelangelo]

Each of the Turtles have shown different sides to their personality when it comes to being mad at each other.  Yes Don would be the worse one to get mad at you, because it will take a long time before he's willing to sort things out.  Though once he does forgive you, than you are forgiven.   It's just getting to that point with him will not be easy.

With the other Turtles mad, well Raph is always angry any how.  So they're all use to Raph being pizza'ed at them.  Sometimes Raph pushes too far in his anger, and almost hurts his family or just take off to blow the steam.  Though when that happen, the one Raph punishes the most is himself.  Mad at himself for being so out of control.  He's loves his family so much that the one who pisses him off the most, is himself.   So he has an easier time to forgive his brother.

Leonardo does get angry, but at the same time knows where to go to let it out.  So when he's mad, he trains to let his stress out, and also takes time to talk to Master Splinter.  Being the one always left in control, has taught Leo how to help control his temper.  After he works the steam off, he'd talk to who ever pizza'ed him off.   Which is usually Raph.   Though in the 4Kids series they give Leo a bit of a Raph type attitude, with running off when he's angry and taking matters into his own hands.  And season 4 is whole other story.

Michelangelo is a hard Turtle to pizza off, but not hard to offend.   Though he's very fast to forgive.   He's gotten the short end of the stick all of his life.  He's also a prankster and does things to upset his brothers.  So he realizes a lot of it, is stuff he did bring down upon himself when his brothers do pizza him off.   Mike will go out for walks, or play video games to work the stress off.  Though will bounce back to his self in no time to say all is cool.  One of the best samples of this is The unconvincing Turtle Titan.  He was hurt by how his brothers treated him, went out and did stuff.  But when he came back, he didn't rub it in their face though it was on the news than he even denied it being him at first, and went to Splinter to train.  

Now, ways they'd react to having a brother mad at them.

I know that Leo, Mike and Don have all had Raph mad at them in the past.  They won't take horrible offense to it, and will realize he needs to chill out before things can be fixed.

If Mike's mad, sadly his brothers don't always take it serious cause they know that Mike will forgive them soon.  They don't always realize just how much they hurt him at times.

When Leo's mad, it depends on the brother.
- Raph walks away.  He's not going to put up with Leo like that.  He gets annoyed with Leo as it is.
- Don would try to make amends with his brother, to make sure Leo is ok.  If that doesn't work, he'll wait for Leo to come to him.
- Mike will make some sort of "I'm sorry" type gift be it food or something to try and cheer Leo up.  He'd smile a lot to Leo to let him know things will be ok.  

If Don is mad, his brothers would stay out of his way.  They'd want to know how to help but first they'd have to find out he's upset.  Don is the type that wouldn't really show it, he may snap a bit more, and be a lot more quiet.  Though he won't come out and say he's mad, till he's ready to talk about it.   He could be pizza'ed at his brothers for months and they won't know or they'd have a small idea... till he wants them to know.

[LenniluvsBrian]

I think it'd be Donnie too, because Mikey does forgive & forget rather easily. It's just his nature. Though, I do admit, I love it when any of them is mad because it's kind of exciting - lol. I just love how they look when they're angry - and with Mikey & Donnie that's not too often. Raph & Leo mostly - maybe that's part of why I love them so much - lol.

But, yeah, I'd be afraid to get Donnie mad. If you make him mad enough, who knows what gadget he'll think up to seek revenge - if he  got to the point of needing and wanting to seek revenge. Eep. They always say it's the quiet ones you gotta watch, so when it comes to angering Donnie - Watch Out! Lol.

~Lenni~

[Sage Ninja]

I'm going to jump on the band wagon and say that Donatello is the one all the other turtles would hate to have mad at them the most for all the reasons that every one else has mentioned. Although I don't think it is quite such a rarity to have Donatello angry in general or at one of his brothers. I think, like Raphael, he is probably the next one to get aggravated with people the most since he is the kind of a loner like Raphael. But I think it's very hard to get Donatello mad to the point where he would act openly cold toward you and would freak the others out, since he is the arguably the turtle with the most gentle and calm disposition that I think the others turtles would think that they really crossed the line to get him to that point. Although I don't see Donatello not saying anything if he was mad at the others. I think if he was angry at the rest that he would let them know pretty early on and then let them chew on that for a while and let them know exaclty what they did to offend him. Donatello just comes off as a very articulate sort who would being able to tel every one (in detail) why he is mad at themAlthough i think Donatello is the turtle that would be the hardest to get on good terms again and earn his forgiveness.

Michelangelo is a hard Turtle to pizza off, but not hard to offend. Though he's very fast to forgive. He's gotten the short end of the stick all of his life. He's also a prankster and does things to upset his brothers. So he realizes a lot of it, is stuff he did bring down upon himself when his brothers do pizza him off. Mike will go out for walks, or play video games to work the stress off

That is a very good observation about Mikey. He does seem very sencative and easly offended but he is probably the the one turtle that shows his anger (I mean true anger) the least. I think for the most part the other turtles are used to Mikey getting aggravated and mopey and pizza'ed off at small trivial little things (like he missed his favorite show). But I notice that Mikey seems to brush off things that I would normally think would anger other people, even big things. So he really treats his brothers and most situations with quite a bit of tolerance. I think mostly Mikey just doesn't like confrontation of any sort and hates fighting (even though he likes getting a rise out his brothers) so he is most likely to just brush off something upsetting or cover it up with a joke he is passive aggressive that way. His brothers on the other hand know this so I don't think they are the least bit concerned about ever jeapordising their realtionship with him. I think Mikey is the one brother that all the others feel completely comfertable with to say or do what they want around him and act any way they want to him, with out fear of losing his affection for them. And I think because if this they take him for granted  as a result. And even if they did manage to anger him and he did act coldly or resentful toward them, I think that they are more likely to think his anger is unfounded or unreasonable and probably feel a that he was over reacting. Mikey on the other hand I think is more concerned about losing his other brothers affection out of all the other turtles. I think any of the turtles being seriously cold and angry at him would completely devastate him and he wouldn't be able to handle it.
 
So I'm going to go with Donatello on this one, and Leo I think it would freak every one out since they all rely on him, and Raph I think it would take a diffrent kind of anger than the one that they are all used to get the other brothers alarmed. With Mikey it would be interesting how they would react if they ever lost that closeness with him and he became cold toward them . Some how think that would cuase the biggest shock and blow to them to have goofy, friendly Mikey angry at them, and would take alot more to mend since it probably take something extrodinarly big to make Mikey cold and resentful toward them.  

[Angelo]

Donatello would be one, and it has already been explained by others  

[Sage Ninja]

you know that old saying that you can pick your friends but you can't pick your family, I think it is a really insightful saying. I love my family to death but there are satill times (like today for example) where I wonder how the heck or why I put up with them at times. I just got into serious confrontation with my dad and older sister and left me fuming. When I get like this I just leave for awhile or I don't have any contact with them for a few days. Which is easy to do since I don't live with my dad and my older sister and I have diffrent scheduals. So we get periods of time where we don't have to be in each others faces. Which is good, because being in their presence when I'm mad or their mad is impossiable. We'd gut each other.

 It's because of this that I thought about this thread and it made me think, how the heck do the turtles put up with each other all the time day in and day out.  their whole lives revolve around each other and they live in close quaters, and it's not like they can just leave for a few days if one of them needs to cool off. In a normal family situation it hard enough tp put up with each other even if you do love them, but the turtles aren't just brothers their team mates as well, it like going to work with your family on top of having to deal with them at home. Because they are so close nit and have such strong and diffrent personalites and a reltionship that is not just of brothers but also as ninjas which is occassinally tainted by competiveness. You have to wonder how exactly with such volitle diffrences do these guys deal with their own anger. And in close relationships even siblings, people get angry and offended at each other which put strains on their relationships. In fact I think the closer you are to some one the more likely you are to offend or anger each other and have periods of strife than those you aren't as close too. . In fact I think it's more likely in the turtles situation since they are so dependent on each other that they would encounter issues.

I know that when the turtles are on screen that seem to get along with each other well and or at least tolerate each other well, but Ibet off screen the turtles have their diffrences. When I watch Grudge match I was shocked (well not completely)to see Donatello join in on the taunting of Mikey. You have to wander just how much crap did all turtles have to put up from Mikey over that win, to make even Donny all gleeful at the prospect of Mikey getting come uppance?  

[Jelly bean]

hm, this one is a toughy because I don't think the turtles have ever acted full blown angry, so it is hard to picture them angry at each other. But I think it would make for a intence episode if the show ever played around with the dynamics of the brothers relationship by making one of them angry at the others. It sort of gives me chills just imagining something like that (in a good way). I think I might actually want to see something like that just to see how the other brothers would react to it and try to fix it. I wonder which turtle being angry would make the strongest impression if he was angry at the others. 

to be honest i think Donny would be the one that the other turtles would feel the most uncomfertable if he was angry at them, but I actually voted for Mikey because I think his brothers would be completely floored if goofy, clownish, little brother Mikey was actually angry at them.

[Sage Ninja]

with the way the show has been kidified I don't think the show will ever go into the depths of characterasation and explore the turtles relationships so deeply ever again. It's a shame I loved the anger that was played out on the screen between Raph and Leo and I would love to see something of that depth explored in the new toon.

What I wonder is how would Splinter deal with one of the brothers seriously angry at the others. Splinter has always had to deal with the turtles problems and petty arguments with patients and guidance but I wonder how'd he react to one of his son having a serious issue with the others that goes deeper than sibling fighting?