The best Splinter?

[cynlee]

I definitely think the 2003 Splinter is the best He makes me laugh LOL

OH yes!  

I remember seeing "The Shredder Strikes" part 2-- where he says "Yes, you are all safe" then backhands the heck out of all four!! I was taken by surprise as well as laughing!  Leo: What was that for?  Splinter:  For taking on the Shredder on your own!



And when I got a chance to see the first few episodes-- episode three, where he tells April he believes her...

Leo:  Is this some lesson?  How to sense the truth?
Splinter:  No.. this is called "trusting your gut".


2k3 Splinter rules.  I love TMNT Splinter as well.  Fast Forward Splinter has his (very few) moments.  


But honestly, I am afraid of the coming series, where Splinter is dispersed along the stupid virtual plane or whatever, and how they have to gather his bits....

[Sage Ninja]

I agree with your take on NT Splinter. Yes, he doesn't favor Leo over the others, but I feel that Leo does feel pressured to please Splinter, though Splinter never puts this pressure on him. He wants to please his dad which is why he works hard. But I agree that Splinter loves all of his sons and shows it in the NT. I almost cried when he saw Don mutated and looked so hearbroken because of it. That was powerful to me. And when he encouraged Leo to face his fears. That was awesome.

This is what I like about NT Splinter is the fact that he doesn't play favorites with the turtles. And the only real pressure Leo actually feels to please Splinter comes from himself not Splinter. NT Splinter has always been very understanding of each of the turtles and given them space to figure things out on their own and find them selves, even when it seems trivial. Like in the Unconvincing Turtle Titan episode when Mikey wanted to do things out in the open like super heros do instead of hiding in the shadows, and what did Splinter do? He didn't put his desire down or not take him seriously, he let him go out and figure things out on his own instead of forbidding him from thinking of doing things out in thge open.

mm, the same can't be said of CGI Splinter in the new movie. I said before that this portrayal of Splinter was flawed, well I think what made him so flawed was that I think he did play favorites a bit with Leo and Raph. **Dodges bricks thrown by rabid movie Splinter fans**. In other mediums where Leo and Raph have conflict the writers seem careful to portray Splinter as giving his favor equally between Raph and Leo which really puts more pettiness to the rivalry. But in the movie Splinter clearly does have higher expectations of Leo and trusts him above all the other turtles to lead the team and guide the family and take responciablity for their actions. Which sucks for Leo since he can't control what the others do, but makes it look like Leonardo has some sort of elevated status over Raph and the others. Which Leo sort of does since Splinter has made it so, and Raph does not like it.

But that's the weird thing. In actual chronological age, Splinter can't be more than a year or two older than the turtles. So if they're 16 in 2k3, he's really only 18! It makes me wonder how the mutagen affects the aging process. Did Splinter turn into a middle-aged mutant, because he was a middle-aged rat? Is his total lifespan now halfway between rat and human?

I think when the turtles and Splinter mutated it took their animal ages of physical maturity and converted it over to human years. So even if Splinter had only been alive for two years before he found the turtles as babies and they where mutated, he would have been in rat years a fully grown rat going into his middle years. And the turtles being babies where just babies when they mutated, so Splinter is indeed older than the turtles and old enough to be thier father.

[BubblyShell22]

Oh, I agree with the movie Splinter version. It does seem like he expects more of Leo than of the others. I wanted to hug Leo when he was getting berated by Splinter. Sure, I like TMNT Splinter, but that berating just made me feel really sorry for Leo.

2K3 Splinter rules! He definitely makes me chuckle, and I love him in The Lost Season.

[Sage Ninja]

I liked the old movies Splinter, because the scenes with him had some powerful things in there. And yes, a gentle father figure, but certainly nothing to kick anyone's butt physically. (Which may have been partly due to the at the time impressive animatronic work, but would have limited having Splinter leaping about.)

hmm, you make a good point about live action Splinter. He came across as over all more gentle and meek in this version so him so him taking a more pacifist stance concering needless violence sort of goes with his his age and the limits of his body. I just thought he seemed to much like he he had one foot in the ground .and he did come off as more warm and fatherly to the turtles especially when he is comferting Raphael in the first half of the movie about his anger issue and he puts his hand on his head as Raphael cries, and also with his concern for that snotty Danny kid and his pep talks he gave him about fathers and sons, whistle he was chained to a fence after being beaten half to death, really showed how compassinate and selfless he was. And I think that is what made movie Splinter my favorite even over the cartoon version of them time. I loved the role of family the he represented in the movie.

you know what else I like about 2k3 Splinter? Really?  He is the only Splinter that I've seen that is down to earth and...human! All the other Splinters sometimes come off as too other worldly and cryptic that you feel a bit alienated by them almost. Like if you where living with a holy man and he was constantly droning off about the mysterious of nature and karma . NT Splinter has that but it's tempered with a very dry sence of humour and laid back disposition that makes him less out of reach and intimidating. Like you could get close to him. I like how he is a serious character but can be a comedic character as well. I think that is why his personality quirks make his sence of humour more funny. And I like I said I feel this Splinter balances his roles of sensei and Father the best out of all the Splinters, since he can be a strict and tough sensie and poerful warrior while being a supportive father as well.  

[Raphs_Girl]

I really like the 2k3 version of Splinter the best! At times he can be humourous, stern, and caring. I think he's the most well-rounded incarnation!

[BubblyShell22]

I agree with that. He definitely has a stern nature and a caring nature. I love his sense of humor the best though. One of my fave moments was when he was playing poker with Raph and Casey and said, "If one does not know how to pay, one must not play. Suckers." That just cracked me up.

[Lady Mew2]

I voted fer the New Toon Splinter cuz he's what a father is suppose to be.

[BubblyShell22]

I second that motion. New Toon Splinter rules!

[Mindy]

New movie CGI Splinter

In just the movie's (short) running time, I felt so much closer to Splinter and his intentions. He came down hard on his sons but also had the most tender-hearted moments of the movie, too. He was very real to me, and if I ever wrote a TMNT fic, I would go by this version of Splinter. Plus, I really liked his voice and accent, as well.

[Sage Ninja]

On another message board we got into the disscussion of Splinter and his use of disipline and how he occassinally uses corporal punishment on the turtles, even the Splinter in the 2k3 series where he is alot more funny and relaxed. some people have a problem with it.

Personly given the fact that the turtles are are not the norm and can get brutally tortured and killed if they where to act stupid and disobey Splinter and get captured, and because they are warriors, that I think makes sence Splinter would administer displine physically. Splinter isn't a raising a typical family of American boys where taking away their TV privlidges or confining them to their room, would make a strong enough impression for the turtles to stay in line. But yeah, even with all that to consider I do admit that every time Splinter has smacked the turtles around I was like    but it does get your attention and put sence of realism that the turtles get disiplined like any other teenager and gets in trouble. Also I think when Splinter hits the turtles it gives the situation some tension in a "oh crap! Splinters pizza'ed at the turtles, how far is this going to go?" sort of way. I think the reason why we get all OMG WTF, when Splinter hits the turtles is because in our culture the whole corporal punishment thing has become something of a taboo since most forms of physical punishment have been abandoned for more friendlier means of disapline, that Splinter useing this is sort of a shock (to some), but I think it lends a sort of realism to Splinters back ground as a japanese rat and not an american one, which I think helps to set apart as not the typical American dad. Splinter is old school even in the New toon where he seems to be laid back.

[Jelly bean]

cartoon Splinter all the way!!  Splinter is such a kick butt rat. 

[Sage Ninja]

this was brought up in another forum so I'll just ask this here. Do you think Splinter spanked the turtles when they where little kids when they misbehaved? Or do youthink he didn't use that form of punishment on the turtle? If he did spank which turtles probably got spanked more often than the others?

[Calypso]

It was soo hard to decide that I didn't vote, 
I loved Splinter in all of what he has been in.  Sure he may have had subtle differences during shows, but to me he will always be the same Master and Father he has always been to the Turtles.

He is a strong, caring and loving being, in spite of whatever has been through thanks to Saki in some form or another.  So for me to try and choose, it's like trying to choose who my favourite sister is or which parent I love the most (I love my family equally, there is no way I can decide).

[Jelly bean]

I agree with your take on NT Splinter. Yes, he doesn't favor Leo over the others, but I feel that Leo does feel pressured to please Splinter, though Splinter never puts this pressure on him. He wants to please his dad which is why he works hard. But I agree that Splinter loves all of his sons and shows it in the NT. I almost cried when he saw Don mutated and looked so hearbroken because of it. That was powerful to me. And when he encouraged Leo to face his fears. That was awesome.

hey which one of his sons do you think Splinter feels the most uncomfertable around or can't relate to the most? Personally i think it might be Raph.

[Shredneck]

The best Splinter was in the original Mirage comics, but, as far as the cartoons and movies go, I'd have to go with the Splinter from the first Turtles movie, he came off as the most believable and realistic.