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« on: January 05, 2010, 06:11:10 PM »

This has been bugging me for awhile...but I feel the need to vent and talk to somebody about this.

The topic I'm going to mention is a touchy one, especially for me. It's about slash. I have nothing against the genre, but there are some fans out there who take their obsession a little too far. Some fans had disrespect other fans for not liking the genre and will even lay down the homophobia card on you. They will make snarky, rude replies and will try to bait you into an argument so that you'll contradict yourself. I'm not saying all slash fans are like this, but the behavior of these fans are making it harder and harder to tolerate it's exhistance on the web.

However, I'm not going to rant about the fans in general. This rant is about a friend who took their obsession to far to the point where it terminated our friendship.

I posted an angry rant on my livejournal. I was just fed up with the obnoxious behavior from these fans. Next thing I know, she posts a rude comment on MY LIVEJOURNAL, insinuating that I was attacking her friends. She starts off by being whiny, saying, "I don't want to change your preferences" and ended with this whiny comment, "but it hurts to hear you bash a group that consists of my friends".

That did it. She pushed me over the edge. I was furious and angrily replied that I never once mentioned her friends on my rant. I was merely venting on the people who had taken their obsession to an obnoxious extreme. What really hurt was that she didn't even bother apologizing.

I've waited for days which turned into weeks. Still no apology. One day, she decided to comment on my livejournal. I wanted tips ion a decision whether or not to write a romance with an OC. Next thing I know, she was sterotyping, calling me a fangirl. I told her that I wanted to write romance  for fun. I don't squeal about fictional characters any more. You know what she said? That I'll be a non obsessive fangirl.
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I got so upset that I left the chat. The next morning, she send me a note, saying, that she didn't want to be my friend any more. She said that we're too different and ended with, "I'm sorry, but I can't handle talking to you any more."

She practically ruined my entire day. This happened about a month ago, but it still hurt and I feel like I should talk about this with somebody since the pain is still there.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2010, 06:59:51 PM »

Hiya,

Sorry about this.  Friendships are kind of hard sometimes when people don't except every ones point of views.  Though no one should be excepted to do just that.  For a friendship to work, people have to be open minded that no matter what you like, your friends are not going to always agree with you. 

I personally have never been into the romance part of the things I like, though I see that they're an important part of the character growth.  So adding them to stories and stuff, helps makes the characters more rounded.  So I can see why you'd want to put it in a fanfic.  It's wrong for anyone to accuse you of being a huge fan of romance, because it's put into a story.

One of the things I don't like in friendships is those types where you have to like what they like, who they like, and what they like, or they're not your friend.  I feel that the minute those type of words come out of their mouths, that they're not really my friend in the first place.  A friend likes who for who you are.  They don't control you.  They don't attack you over silly things like fandoms.  They don't leave you over little things like that.   If there's a problem friends should be able to bring it up and discuss it with each other, privately to work it out.  Not make a public display about it.

Another thing that is important which you did very well here, is not to bring up the friend's name at all when venting.  It helps you be able to vent, those of us who try to talk can help, but you're not dissing your friend in any way.  Thanks for showing respect to her, even though she has caused pain.

Once again, I'm really sorry that your friendship has gone through a hard time there.  Though maybe instead of doing your writing to each other through livejournal where other friends can see it, if you're looking to repair this friendship do a private email.  No attacks, just explaining how you feel and what you were trying to express in your letter.  It was never meant to hurt her or her friends, just something that you wanted to vent about.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2010, 07:13:07 PM »

Hiya,

Sorry about this.  Friendships are kind of hard sometimes when people don't except every ones point of views.  Though no one should be excepted to do just that.  For a friendship to work, people have to be open minded that no matter what you like, your friends are not going to always agree with you. 

I personally have never been into the romance part of the things I like, though I see that they're an important part of the character growth.  So adding them to stories and stuff, helps makes the characters more rounded.  So I can see why you'd want to put it in a fanfic.  It's wrong for anyone to accuse you of being a huge fan of romance, because it's put into a story.

One of the things I don't like in friendships is those types where you have to like what they like, who they like, and what they like, or they're not your friend.  I feel that the minute those type of words come out of their mouths, that they're not really my friend in the first place.  A friend likes who for who you are.  They don't control you.  They don't attack you over silly things like fandoms.  They don't leave you over little things like that.   If there's a problem friends should be able to bring it up and discuss it with each other, privately to work it out.  Not make a public display about it.

Another thing that is important which you did very well here, is not to bring up the friend's name at all when venting.  It helps you be able to vent, those of us who try to talk can help, but you're not dissing your friend in any way.  Thanks for showing respect to her, even though she has caused pain.

Once again, I'm really sorry that your friendship has gone through a hard time there.  Though maybe instead of doing your writing to each other through livejournal where other friends can see it, if you're looking to repair this friendship do a private email.  No attacks, just explaining how you feel and what you were trying to express in your letter.  It was never meant to hurt her or her friends, just something that you wanted to vent about.

Wow! Thank you so much for understanding. That was exactly what I had been trying to do in the first place. I wanted to tell a story. Not from a fangirl's perspective, but from a writer's perspective. Romance is a part of a character's growth and I wanted to show that in my stories. Even though I'm no longer interested in romance, maybe I can try again.

Well, it wasn't public. The rude comment she left was locked privately on livejournal and so was the message. I feel that she was a bit extreme with her choice but I respected it, nontheless. Although the Raph in me wanted to fight but the Leo in me backed down. If I had chosen to fight, then I would be no better then she is and I'm far more honorable then that.

As for the person's name remaining anonymous, that was just common sense. I don't want to have problems with this girl any more then I have to. It'll just make matters worse. When I get angry, my mouth has no sense of control and I wind up biting more then I can chew. But lately I've been doing a good job controlling my temper by biting my tongue.

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2010, 11:08:56 PM »

Your situation, Gynoid, brings for me a lot of bitter memories because it's familiar. It'll be four years this year when I had a huge falling out with a good friend; a bad case of "you're not who I thought you were". I too vented in the way you have done, mentioning no names and trying to be respectful to her even when she was causing me pain, but it came back to bite me in the butt big time.

I thought I was safe where I posted at the time, but she had friends I did not know were there and it got back to her. It exploded into the biggest mess on her LJ I never hope to see ever again with someone. I wouldn't want to see it happen to you, so please be extra careful.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2010, 01:10:23 AM »

I remember you mentioned that on Stealth Stories. I don't know the whole story, but I can understand why you're telling me to be cautious and I appreciate that. It's nice to see people who care.

I'm really sorry that the same thing happen to you. Leonardo-Mystic. I just hope your situation won't attatch itself to me.
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