March 2007 "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" 4

[Jephael]

Among the reasons they're using a different cast is because this is based on the original movie continuity, therefore they're supposed to sound more like how they did back in 1990 when the first film came out.

Where did you get this info?  I surely do not remember the director saying any of this.

Kevin Munroe has openly stated that the first two live action films will remain canon (he even joked about Vanilla Ice in his statement)! So obviously when you think about those two movies, you'll think of the voice work that was done by Kevin Clash, Robbie Rist and all the other great actors who did work on those films.

Grantid the 4Kids cast and crew has been doing a dynamite job with the current cartoon, but it's been stated that they clearly have nothing to do with the new movie anymore than the original cartoon had with the original movie and it's just something people need to accept!

[Kazari]

Even though the whole plotline with monsters reminded me of something that Bishop would do LOL

[Jephael]

Not exactly, though. These monsters aren't mutated sewer creatures, they're some sort of mystical demons. If anything, these monsters are more remeniscent of several old storyline from the Archie comic series.

[Kazari]

I meant monsters in general lol.

[cynlee]

You may not recall, but April being a news reporter, Raphael instead of Leonardo being nearly killed by the foot, and Vanilla Ice are not really "canon".  I, personally, find that nothing of the original cartoon show is or should be referred to as "canon".  To me, that word implies the original comic.  The movie was an adaptation of the comics and the cartoon-- in the case of the Shredder and that whole Danny thing, a BAD adaptation at that.  Each incarnation has its fanbase, and that is fine with me.

I do not think of their voice work when I think of the first movie (NEVER saw the second, and never will).  I distinctly recall my "HEY!  THAT'S ROBBIE RIST!" because I really liked Robbie Rist-- he is not as old as me, but he was someone I had "watched" grow up on TV.  I like voice actors-- I'm facinated with voices, and if I like how a character is being played, I make an effort to find out the name of the actor.  "Name" actors take much-needed work from excellent voice actors, as well as distract me.  In rare cases, the name does a good job because he or she is a fine actor, not just a famous voice.

I heard the voices in the five-minute preview that Kevin presented at Comic-con, and he said quite plainly they were "voice actors"-- no "names" for the Turtles this time.  In fact, he said that the names would only be known to people who are voice actor fans (and yet he STILL didn't say who!!!  AAUUGGGHH!!!).  As I told Buslady (in my opinion) Raph's voice is a cross between 4Kids' John C. and the first movie's Kevin C.  To ME the voices I heard in the preview were very similar to the 4Kids, only a bit toned down.  

As for accepting that the voices from 4Kids had absolutely nothing to do with the movie-- who isn't accepting??  I do not follow that statement at all.

[cynlee]

Yeah, I see that the story is more out there now.  I was so hoping that this news about Mako was just some strange, vicious hoax, considering how the director had JUST told us on Thursday that Mako was the only "name" actor-- he said when he thought of Splinter, the first "Name" that came to all their minds was "Mako".  Hearing him speaking in that five-minute preview was wonderful-- seeing the Splinter for the film with that voice was quite "natural" to me, and fit perfectly.

It's too sad.

[Jephael]

I, personally, find that nothing of the original cartoon show is or should be referred to as "canon".  To me, that word implies the original comic.

The original toon had nothing to do with my previous rant! I was referring soley to the fact that the movies basically have their own continuity to them and if the writers mean to follow that continuity, they have to keep the movie's history as connected as it can be otherwise they're gonna get a buttload of old-school fans who are gonna be confused as hell! It must be extremely hard for them to bridge the gap between the classic animated series and the new one, but I can see how this movie may act as a way to do just that!

[cynlee]

The movies blended the cartoon and the comic.  And nothing I say any further will matter.  

I prefer to like the now.  And what I saw is freaking awesome!  I can't wait!

[Jephael]

I can respect that you don't dwell on the past, but I also feel that it's important to honor what has come before the now.

Warner Bros. has been notorious for owning up to previous versions of the Superman mythos and drops references to them all over Smallville, so I don't see why the TMNT movie can't do the same!

[cynlee]

I can respect that you don't dwell on the past, but I also feel that it's important to honor what has come before the now.

Warner Bros. has been notorious for owning up to previous versions of the Superman mythos and drops references to them all over Smallville, so I don't see why the TMNT movie can't do the same!

???

What's good for the goose is good for the gander?  So all the Spiderman movies should have honored the original Spiderman cartoon show, by that reasoning.

I don't watch Smallville so I can't comment, but after awhile, too many "injokes" get annoying.  The current series was very clever in keeping the injokes few and far between-- the Krang reference, for example, or the April as a news reporter in a yellow jump suit (both from season two?), or the Bebop/Rocksteady one in season four...  

The Christopher Reeves first Superman movie made a joke about the phonebooth-- funny, true.  But it was making fun of it, rather than honoring it.

Oh, and Jeph, dear-- I know you feel strongly about this stuff, but I get the impression you're yelling at me.

[Jephael]

Well when you think about it the Spider-Man movies did pay homage to the original toon when the street preformers sang the theme song. That alone was a perfect injoke and it wasn't at all cornball!

Injokes can be very insightful because they remind you that these characters have withstood the tests of time itself.

Sorry if I sound a little pushy with my opinions, but I do feel I haven't been standing up for my beliefs as much as I could be.

[Brinatello]

Wow this is really sad...   Seems weird to get the news that he was the voice the same day that he passed away.     I don't think any of us would forget this.

Well, Thursday was the day of the WB panel for TMNT and that's where Kevin mentioned Mako's name for Splinter.  It's sad to think just after that day we lost him.  

[cynlee]

Over at the Mirage site they posted about it, and that he had done all the major dialogue, but the extra stuff was not done (additional lines as needed).  I guess they'll have to find someone to loop him.

I just sooo had thought it was a hoax, this news coming so soon-- coupled with our inability at first to find any info.


   

[Jephael]

Yea, it truly is a shame he wasn't able to complete all his lines but I'm sure they'll find a way to deal with this. I mean when you think about it, Splinter's humour and fatherly skills transcend the gift of speech. He can use his own body movement and facial features to express his feelings. How funny would it be if they started making Master Splinter give the old eye-roll bit to the camera?
 

I hope they commemorate this film in honor of Mako's memory!

[Buslady]

You may not recall, but April being a news reporter, Raphael instead of Leonardo being nearly killed by the foot, and Vanilla Ice are not really "canon".  I, personally, find that nothing of the original cartoon show is or should be referred to as "canon".  To me, that word implies the original comic.  The movie was an adaptation of the comics and the cartoon-- in the case of the Shredder and that whole Danny thing, a BAD adaptation at that.  Each incarnation has its fanbase, and that is fine with me.

I do not think of their voice work when I think of the first movie (NEVER saw the second, and never will).  I distinctly recall my "HEY!  THAT'S ROBBIE RIST!" because I really liked Robbie Rist-- he is not as old as me, but he was someone I had "watched" grow up on TV.  I like voice actors-- I'm facinated with voices, and if I like how a character is being played, I make an effort to find out the name of the actor.  "Name" actors take much-needed work from excellent voice actors, as well as distract me.  In rare cases, the name does a good job because he or she is a fine actor, not just a famous voice.

I heard the voices in the five-minute preview that Kevin presented at Comic-con, and he said quite plainly they were "voice actors"-- no "names" for the Turtles this time.  In fact, he said that the names would only be known to people who are voice actor fans (and yet he STILL didn't say who!!!  AAUUGGGHH!!!).  As I told Buslady (in my opinion) Raph's voice is a cross between 4Kids' John C. and the first movie's Kevin C.  To ME the voices I heard in the preview were very similar to the 4Kids, only a bit toned down.  

As for accepting that the voices from 4Kids had absolutely nothing to do with the movie-- who isn't accepting??  I do not follow that statement at all.

*tsk*tsk*

Josh...Raph...

heheheheh