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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2006, 02:59:27 PM »

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Wonderfully put!  It wasn't until last year that I even realized people had serious issues with that.  I still don't understand it but to each their own I suppose.



For some reason (that baffles me) some people veiw the guys as animals... 0.o I personally have NEVER looked at them this way and don't understand why people do. *shrugs* To each there own but I find it kind of insulting. But sense they look at them as animals they find it weird that people would love them in the way a lot of us do....

I don't know overall how Mirage feels about human/Turtle relationships, but I know they are trying to save them selves a lot of grief by staying away from them.

Just look at the nutcase that wrote Laird demanding he remove there tails because they look like weiners.....  Rolling Eyes  BLAH!
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2006, 03:07:50 PM »

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For some reason (that baffles me) some people veiw the guys as animals... 0.o I personally have NEVER looked at them this way and don't understand why people do. *shrugs* To each there own but I find it kind of insulting. But sense they look at them as animals they find it weird that people would love them in the way a lot of us do....

I don't know overall how Mirage feels about human/Turtle relationships, but I know they are trying to save them selves a lot of grief by staying away from them.

Just look at the nutcase that wrote Laird demanding he remove there tails because they look like weiners.....  Rolling Eyes  BLAH!


Two responses!  Very Happy/Big Grin

Some people will never see past the physical, so if they physically look like animals well then they are to them.  I've read people saying that the turtles wouldn't even be interested in a human woman, they wouldn't know what to do with them, blah blah blah.  I don't understand that one bit, especially since they've shown that they can at least appreciate an attractive woman's appearance.  I'd just assume that would mean they'd be interested in one.  So maybe these people are saying they'd be more interested in turtles?  THAT is where it gets weird to me.  Though I admit the mental image of Mikey drooling over a magazine add with pet turtles is vaguely amusing.  (I don't know why it's Mikey.)

Second response on the tails.  That... ugh!  I bought some of the Ninja Action figures recently and was giddy when I found out they had tails.  Being a photo geek like I am I took pictures and posted them in my LJ.  EVERY comment I got was dirty.  These were comments by adults.  My next post was something along the lines of:  "I see why they removed their tails.  I mean if you guys are adults, what the **** are the kids thinking?"  I sort of wish they'd been offended by that but I don't think they were.  -_-  I admit I can get dirty minded but come on people!  Be a little more mature than that!

Um... sorry about the rant... I do that a lot.
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2006, 11:24:18 PM »

O0o0oh, a slash topic! *giggles* I'll have fun with this one!

Jk, seriously though....I don't mind slash at all, but there's an issue with it for me. To me, something can't be slashed if it's not implied in the show. For example, my dear fellow Venture friends and I, creepy as we be, have lots of joking fun slashing Dr. Venture and Brock on Venture brothers (well mainly just Dr. V dreamin of Brock on that one, I think Brock all for the chicks though keke), as well as some other characters on that show, because there is all kinds of implied pairings on there! Even the creators themselves have admitted to implying it, and they have said they are amused by the slash we create as a result of it lol (how awesome are they?! XD) But if I didn't see it in the show though, I wouldn't just randomly be like omg this person would SO do this person because that would be hot.

Just as when I see TMNT slash anywhere, I kinda cringe at it. I seriously can't see it happening at all, even if I try really hard to (for some unknown reason lol). And as for the guys loving only turtles or they can't love humans or whatever, I really don't understand the problem. I mean to me, they are only turtles in body, their mind and spirit are 100% human. They think, act and feel just like any other human would, so why wouldn't they be attracted to another human?

And the tail thing? I think them having tails is cute, people just have sick minds  Rolling Eyes  What's up with that?

Of course after all I've rambled here, don't take me too seriously, cuz I AM a slash fan, and admit to being not as huge of a TMNT fan as the rest of you lol....but hey, I still like it!  LOL  Sorry I rambled off topic into Venture lol, you see what my true fandom is  Love Forgive me!
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2006, 02:56:38 AM »

Well out of all of my action figures I was very surprised that the ninja action ones had tails, I thought it was kinda funny and interesting. I don't mind the tails..., but I prefer the turtles not having them..., maybe because my mind is deep in the gutter and I know it, and I understand why they took them away in the new and the old show, plus the movies. Because as mature as some of us are, parents just don't want their kids seeing it, because a kid will get the wrong idea no matter what.

And I already said I thought human/turtle relationships could probably work, heck if they created female turtles it could also work, I've already tried drawing it and it seems plausible.
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2006, 05:06:27 PM »

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I think them having tails is cute, people just have sick minds  Rolling Eyes  What's up with that?!


Eh, heh heh. Well lets just put it this way, I once knew a couple kids who got a kick out of the Archie comic book adaptions of the first and second movies, which also had the tails drawn in. One of those kids was me and the other one was my cousin. Angel
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2006, 05:18:53 PM »

I personally think the Turtles look more natural with tails.... because well... Turtles have tails *laughs*


I was surprised the first time I saw the Mirage comics with them, with tails, but never really though they were anything but tails.... *laughs*

I actually think the tails are kind of sexy   Love
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2006, 03:03:33 AM »

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I actually think the tails are kind of sexy   Love
*smirk* Amen, sister.   Wink
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2008, 12:01:10 AM »

if Peter and/Kevin wants the turtles to be gay they've got a lot of ground to cover and I mean a hell of a lot of ground.  I will vomit if the turtles end up humping each other out of the clear blue sky.
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2008, 12:23:14 AM »

The only thing that I've gathered from Peter's response was that he's given it consideration, but doesn't feel comfortable delving into it in canon, nor in interview.

And fan's speculation of their sexuality, or what the fan thinks their sexuality should be is just that- speculation. And personal views. It's truly impossible to say, for none of us can truly grasp the experience of being four sole males of a species in a world dominated by a very opinionated 'supremest' race. We (individually and as a society) judge and very obnoxiously, inconsiderately express these judgements over our own people based on matters that don't effect us personally (such as sexual orientation). The TMNT don't have pressures or influence of society. They have each other. Whether they're sexually attracted to only reptilian anthros, any anthros, humans, each other- it's simply impossible for us, with our own life-experience conformed and personal views, to make even an educated guess as to something as complex as the sexuality of a limited race.

To be honest, I've found that when topics like this crop up, it turns into people expressing their personal opinions and why the fictional characters of choice should follow them. Laird is doing the smart thing by avoiding any confirmation on this topic. People are so protective over their ideals, any outright statement would most likely result in a decrease of sales.
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2008, 10:26:38 AM »

I actually take offense sometimes when a non-fan makes a gay joke about the TMNT. My roommate did that a lot last year and it made me very uncomfortable simply because I felt it as an extension of what I thought he was saying about me, not just the Turtles.
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« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2008, 10:46:09 AM »

Exactly. That's a prime example of a fan using a fandom as an extension of their own preferences and phobias. We often imprint ourselves on things and people that we care about.
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« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2008, 11:02:55 PM »

well their tails DO look like their genitals if you're looking at it from a weird angle.  I mean you can't deny that.  sure it would be silly to remove that but if their tails couldn't be mistaken as a ding a ling then they would have been in the cartoons.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2008, 01:32:28 AM »

At least you know for certain they are males. They don't seem to be all that worried about it, anyway.  Very Happy/Big Grin
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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2008, 10:49:05 PM »

If this has come to anyone's attention, but I believe this question has been answered in semi-canon/canon? form - Tales of the TMNT #41, I believe. The whole Leo/Radical romance and from other fans' responses that it was hinted the two formed a physical romance. This is all speculation on my part; I haven't actually read the issue.


"S" word??? You mean.... socks? Would they wear socks?!

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